Whaddya know about Captives? An Interview with Jeffery & Trevor.

The story of how this interview came about is an odd one, and one I'm excited to share. I found Captives when they followed me on Tumblr, of all places. I didn't realize that bands were starting to use Tumblr as a means to get their music out and expand their fan bases  but it worked, so they may be onto something! After listening to the band's tunes and finding the music to be really interesting and diverse, I got in touch with the guys, compliments were exchanged, and here we are. I hope you enjoy the answers from Jeffery and Trevor (vocals & guitar).

Up Late Reviews: How did you first get together as a band? Since then, how have any band member changes or personal ups and downs affected your music?

Trevor Bookout: Well Jeff and myself shared a passion for music ever since we became friends in high school. We wanted to pursue music seriously our senior year. We eventually started a band with some friends, but we jumped into it too fast and ended up with some really confusing music. We knew what we wanted to sound like, but had no idea how to get there. A few years went by, and after going through some tough times in our life we found ourselves writing music again.

Jeffery Mudgett: Like Trevor said, he and I had been friends since high school, and we both shared a love for music. We've been jamming together since '09. It took us several years and a couple bands to find our sound, but we stuck it out and founded Captives in early 2012. In the beginning we went through a lot of different drummers and bassists, but eventually we ended up with Jake Evans and Tyler Colburn, who we couldn't be more happy with. And as for the ups and downs, we all have had them, but those are the things and times we express in our music.

ULR: Do you feel like starting in Utah made things harder for you to break into the music scene?

TB: Trying to play music in Utah is definitely a frustrating place to try to break into a scene. We feel like were actually trying to start a scene here, much less break into one.

JM: There really isn't much of a scene around here for our kind of music sadly, especially in Utah County. The Ogden and Salt Lake scenes are better, but still lacking in diversity. The style of music that thrives here are hardcore and indie folk. I feel like our music is more of an east coast sound, hence why we want to tour so badly.

ULR: Do you guys think that you've grown as a band and your sound has changed accordingly?

TB: I would say that our sound is maturing the more we play and the more we learn about ourselves and our writing abilities. Jeff and I have been attempting to write music since the day we started playing guitar, around four years ago. Jake was a guitarist before he joined the band, not a drummer. He specifically learned drums to jam with us. So all of us, from a musicians standpoint, are still fairly new to writing. So yes, we are growing for sure, and we are very excited about our new material coming.

JM: As musicians, we are always growing. 

ULR: Do you have one specific member who works on writing a majority of lyrics and/or music or do you feel that it's an equal collaboration?

TB: Jeff and myself are mostly the song writers. Jake and Tyler will write their parts after we present the song to them, but we lay down the foundation for the song. Jeff is mostly our instrumental guy. He has been playing Guitar for a year less then I have and I have nothing to show for it besides complete confusion to whatever chords and/or leads he's showing me ha. I will occasionally add a guitar riff or hum a note progression I want him to find for me haha. He is 100% the reason why our music in our EP is as good as it is. I do a good portion of the melody writing and lyrics. I've always had a knack for poetry and I just converted that over into a lyric form. Jeff usually thinks of his own melodies for his parts and helps out with lyrics as well.

JM: The original plan was that we would both write our own lyrics and create our own melodies for our vocal parts. We stayed true to that for Forsaken and Abandon, but Trevor basically took over all lyrics and melodies for Ugly and Grace. 

ULR: Tell me about your lyric writing process and how you end up with the final product? Has your process changed at all since you started?

TB: Writing lyrics comes easy for me. I would say that once I find a melody, I concentrate on how that melody makes me feel, what emotion or memories or random segments of thought pops in my head and I run with it. Sometimes, when I write a song, I have no Idea what I initially mean behind what I'm saying. Afterwards, I find that connection that lets me apply it to my own life, literally or metaphorically. I will then change it to fit me more and be more personal, or leave it, because that's exactly what I wanted it to say. That method usually works for bits and parts of songs, but not the song as a whole. I seem to always have something that is on my mind that I feel the need to express through music and that's what I go off of. For example, some people have mistaken "Grace" for a romantic song. It's not about a girl really at all. Rather, it's about a time in my life when I truly felt lost, and those are the experiences and emotions and trials I went through during that time in my life.

JM: A lot of times we don't have an initial theme or idea behind a song to start off with. Most of the time I'll have an instrumental foundation written before we even start lyrics or melodies. Usually Trevor will write the first few lyrics and then I'll add my parts accordingly. It really depends on the song though. Our process is always changing.

ULR: Do you feel like it's difficult for you to continue making a name for yourself as a band, while other bands and musicians often seem to meld together under the pressure of the industry to make "popular" music?

TB: Being in a band is always gonna be difficult. I don't think anyone gets themselves into a serious band with the thought that it's gonna be an easy ride or that it's gonna be one big party. Especially if you are outside of the top 40 sound. I don't think that the level of difficulty has, or ever will, put pressure on us to change our music or the way we write. We are strong believers in writing music for the right reasons. I can honestly say that I wouldn't be the person I am if it wasn't for a handful of bands who I shaped my life around. We would love to be one of those bands for someone. We write music we love, and that is all that matters.

JM: We just make music we love, and will continue doing so for however long we can. Popularity doesn't affect our writing. 

ULR: Have you experienced any issues or fallbacks while recording?

TB: We have only recorded professionally once. All I have to say, is if you do it with the right producer, you know your parts, and you can hear the finished product in your head how it's supposed to sound, it should go as smooth as butta. It was a breeze for us. We recorded all four tracks to our EP in five days.

JM: We've had some bad experiences recording locally, so we decided to go a more professional route with our EP and chose to record at a legitimate studio out of state. And it turned out amazing.

ULR: Do you guys have any plans for a tour in the near future, whether local or US?

TB: We would absolutely love to go on tour. We really want to get onto a tour with a band who has a similar sound to us so we can actually play in front of people who enjoy our style of music, rather than playing shows with bands who's fans couldn't care less about us haha. Right now it's all a matter of time and money, which hopefully will not be an issue in the near future.

JM: TOUR WOOOO!

I'm curious as to how you guys personally feel about the way music sales have changed, including illegal downloading, iTunes, Amazon, and other online music retailers. Does this totally ruin music or do you think this improves how easily and rapidly music reaches your fan's ears?

TB: Illegal downloading is like a bitter-sweetness for sure. Mainly because it's awesome how music can spread like wildfires and tons of listeners can hear it which could lead to more support. However, "can" is the key word in that sentence. I am a very strong believer that if you love a band you should support them. Go to their shows, buy some merch. Just help keep them in a financial position to continue making the music you love. Right now, we just want people to listen to our stuff and experience our music. So it's on our bandcamp for free 90% of the time until we run out of free downloads for the month. But if that happens you can just download it off a torrent website instead haha.

JM: Music has turned into a service now days, so I say go download anything you want, but if you like it enough, go support the band and buy some merch. 

Do you think that online sales will eventually completely replace CD and vinyl sales?

TB: I don't think online sales will ever replace vinyl. Maybe CD's, but not vinyl. Once you have the love for records it never stops. They are just so cool, and so much fun to have and admire. I love seeing the artwork and reading the lyric sheets along with the music. Plus, it's always nice to have something tangible of the band you love so much.

JM: I've spent way too much money on vinyl records and CD's. They are more collectibles in this day and age. I feel for listening purposes digital music has already replaced physical. But I think Cd's and records will always be around.

If each of you had to choose one musician, dead or alive, to add to the band, who would it be?

TB: I would probably want Chris Freeman from Manchester Orchestra, not only because the guy rocks out on the keys like no one before him, but he brings such a cool environmental sound to Manchester and I think if we were missing a piece of the puzzle to some of our songs, some raining down, powerful keys would do the trick.

JM: Ian Mackaye.

And if Jake were here he'd choose Justin Beiber.

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Major League - Interviewed pre-show (December 8, 2012)

Major League, as you will find out in my next album review post, is one of my favorite bands. Despite that they are not a band I've listened to for years and years, they are still one I hold dear to me. I emailed them just days before the show (which I only found out about less than a week beforehand) and asked if they would do an interview with me. Nick emailed me back the same day and was incredibly gracious and agreed. We set up a time and a place and bam! Just like that, it was on.

The only thing I didn't predict was first losing my camera charge cord and then having a tape recorder break. Yeah, it felt a little like the world was out to make sure I didn't get a good recording of my interview. But that's okay, because what did we do before we had technology like video and audio recording? We used pen and paper. So that's what I did.* I've never been nervous during an interview before, but the combined lack of preparation that happened at the last minute and being in the presence of one of my favorite bands (not in a fan-girl way, just in an appreciative way) made me a little flustered. Enjoy learning a little more about Major League!

(If you've never heard of Major League or don't know them well, please visit the links below to view their different social pages and check out their music.)

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Photo by Shot by Nesha

How did you first get started and what made you choose the direction for your sound that you did?

We just started jamming and writing songs; threw it together. The pop punk thing just happened. We all came from hardcore or metalcore backgrounds; that's what we had played in different bands before we came together. It just worked and we're able to play what we want.

Do you feel like starting in New Jersey made things harder for you to break into the music scene?

Yes. In our area there wasn't a pop punk scene. It was a "harder" scene and then when it came to pop punk, bands like Man Overboard were becoming popular and being noticed so it was hard to break into that.

Do you feel like you've grown as a band and your sound has changed accordingly?

Yes. [Unanimous. Perhaps next time I'll add more depth to this question!]

Do you think your fans perceptions of you may have changed over the past few years?

People take us more seriously now. It's a good and bad thing. [Good because] Our parents perceptions have definitely changed and they take us a lot more seriously. They're proud. My dad thought we'd come crawling back but now he sees that we've made it out of the garage band thing. [Brian]

How do you feel about being named a pop-punk band? Is that a self-proclaimed genre or something fans have decided for you?

Photo by Shot by Nesha

Definitely fans. Really, it's all rock. We're playing rock and the titles are just sub-genres of rock. Everything is pop punk now. Title Fight is pop punk. Things on Tumblr are pop punk.  [Matt]  I hate genres. [Brian] Promoters and kids take it so seriously - everything gets based on genre. It used to be so much like one big thing - the music scene. Now kids come out to your shows and they judge you off your merch and it's not about having fun anymore. They stop looking at musicians now and it's about being prejudice against certain genres and only coming out to shows if the show is a genre they like.

Who writes most of the lyrics and the music and if it's not a total collaboration, how do you come to agreements?

Brian writes the lyrics and Matt does too sometimes. The lyric process is just what I feel and what's going on, life experiences. The rest is a group feeling. Everyone in the band has lost someone or been able to relate to something that a song is about. Nick will sometimes take lyrics and make a chorus from something I couldn't, trying to figure it out and arrange it.  Everyone writes their own music except with the last record where everyone had more input on it.

Please explain your writing process and how it has changed between albums, if it has.

Hard Feelings was totally different. Luke lives in Pittsburg so when we did The Split [with Giants at Large] and Hard Feelings recordings, we would use our phones to record and we would be emailing songs and it got to a point where Luke would hear the different parts of what we were doing and say "You'll hear the drums when I'm done."

Photo by Shot by Nesha

Do you feel like it's ever difficult to continue making a name for yourself as a band, while others seem to meld together under the pressure of the industry to make "popular" music?

You pay your dues. You make the music you want to make. People see you work hard and it all comes back to you. It's about respect especially in underground music. [Nick]

What, if anything, have you run into as a band that was difficult to overcome?

An accident where a truck ran into us.
But honestly nothing really - we keep going - every band goes through things. [Nick] We've been asked this before and it seems like everything comes out good or better in the end. [Matt] For every 3 things, 1 good thing happens. So after 2 things we're just waiting for the third bad thing to come and know that a good thing will be coming next. Always 3 and then 1 in that order.

Have you experienced any fallbacks or problems while recording?

With the new record. It was the most stressful, crazy thing with limited time. Only 4 weeks in the studio which was different and we hadn't heard everything together. Once we did, we didn't want to go that way and we literally spent the whole first week in the studio rewriting all the songs completely. For Nick, that meant spending 4 days on vocals with no time to relax or take a little break away from music and not think about it. It was just straight recording.

Do you feel like those things brought you closer and made the band even stronger?

Yes. Getting through certain things like the van being totaled and bouncing back the next day. As a band we can get through anything but it's good and bad. We can get cocky and think we're immortal.

Photo taken Dec 8 @ Baldwin Park show

When touring and playing live shows, do you feel lie it's hard to please all your fans? E.g. playing the songs they want to hear, meeting their expectations or meeting everyone who wants to say hi?

No, we ask if they want to hear certain songs and we try to make people happy. It's about the fans more than us. It's up to them what they want to hear.

What can fans expect from you in 2013? 

More of the new record. We want to play more of the new stuff. Last night [12/7] in Vegas, the kids rushed  to the front of the stage to hear Homewrecker right away and to sing along. It's a great feeling that kids want to hear our new stuff that much.

I'm curious as to how you guys personally feel about the way music sales have hanged, including illegal downloading, iTunes, Amazon, and other online music retailers. Does this totally ruin music or do you think this improves how easily and rapidly music reaches your fans ears?

Both. I hate that there is hardly any music stores anymore. It used to be a huge thing staying up and standing in line (like they do now for movie premieres at midnight) for a new record to drop. Kids miss out now, because it's not like that anymore. It's changed a lot. It helps bands in a way because when we're MIA kids can still download the stuff (illegally or not) and come out to our shows once they've heard it.

Do you think that online sales will eventually completely replace CD and vinyl sales?

Yes. It already has. I remember when Blink-182 self titled CD came out and I was a freshman I was there in line waiting for it and the next day you couldn't find it anywhere. That's how it was when albums dropped. But now when their last album came out, you saw it everywhere. Nobody was buying physical albums. It seems it's only at shows that people buy the actual albums. It's a big bummer.

*I tried to get things as perfectly as possible, so please excuse any paraphrasing or abruptness!

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Taking Back Sunday, Bayside, and Man Overboard (#TAYF10 Tour) at Club Nokia October 25, 2012)

The scene was a beautiful one: a crazy long line of people all lined up for the Taking Back Sunday #TAYF10 tour! A lot of these people were wearing merch and some of them even had TBS shirts from "back in the day," showing that they had likely been around from when the album was first released. Many Bayside fans also showed up, some excited to see the bands for the first time, while some had been to many shows and had more of a relaxed vibe as they waited in line. I didn't see any Man Overboard shirts, but I know there were many loyal fans out there in the crowd once the band went on later.

Personally, I've seen Taking Back Sunday twice: The Next Big Thing 6 (Tampa Bay 2006) and Warped Tour 2012 (My first Warped Tour this year in Pomona) and Bayside once at the same Warped Tour this past summer. I was beyond excited to get to see them, even though I felt a little nervous about the venue size, crowd, and the VERY small pit that they had given "limited" access to. (Which really meant as many people as they could fit in there without killing someone.)

After waiting in line and getting our pit access, my friend and I squeezed as close to the front as possible and waited for the show to start. There were so many people who were excited for Man Overboard to open. Although I hadn't been as long-term of a fan of them as others in the crowd, it was great to see how much excitement there was for them. Many people knew the lyrics to their music as they started playing, but the crowd didn't go nearly as crazy as I would soon witness. Now, I've been to a LOT of shows. I've been to shows in all sorts of venues with all kinds of music and different crowds and I've been hit in places I had to think about later (how?! why?!) but never have I seen a crowd like the one that night.

Bayside played a solid set to a sea of singing fans who knew the lyrics very well and it almost sounded like a live recording of their album. I was very pleased and glad to be part of a crowd who knew and apparently loved Bayside as much as I do! (A few people, not surprisingly, screamed out their love for, and desire to have the babies of Anthony.) They put on an even better set than the smaller one at Warped Tour, which I had thought was amazing, so that's saying something.

The crowd started pushing some towards the end of Bayside's set and a couple people attempted to crowd surf, which is apparently their way of showing appreciation for the music. Nobody seemed amused. When Taking Back Sunday took the stage, the change was enormous. Not only did everyone start shoving and "moshing" (I put it in quotations because these individuals have clearly never been to a hardcore show and were trying to mosh/circle pit but don't know what they are doing.) but the voices got louder and the excitement was even more clear.

On the upside, a great show was had and they played a great set, comparable with the one I saw at Warped Tour (with a much smaller crowd at Club Nokia) but the downsides were the tight space and people kicking and throwing elbows everywhere (even in the parts of the crowd you usually would be safe in) and one guy who tried to crowd surf to the stage 12 or 13 times in a row and didn't get kicked out. I would put the downsides mostly on the venue/security, because that's not really on the band. But I did get punched in the face so hard I thought my nose was broken, and my glasses were ripped off my face a few times. (Not the first time it's happened... La Dispute...)

All in all, great show.

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